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May 17, 2019

Devcentral relaunch || Really very confusing || Errors and Moved Stuff ..?!! || Complain

This is very sad that the community which is a very elegant healthy place that differ F5 from anyone else is not available when I needed that :( I know that change is the most truth and change is fo...

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John_Doe

Altostratus

May 17, 2019

Worst idea ever - unconditionally move loyal users to new (and ugly) design.

material design in not that fancy for most of the users who do work and not hanging out on devcentral website
ugly and unreadable font for articles headers - somebody in F5 devcentral design team has impaired vision? Go ahead, buy glasses, contact lens or eve do yourself a present - make an eye vision operation. WHAT THAT BOLD FONT IS FOR??? With condensed space between letters. Are there any UI/UX pros in F5 team or none? It that none of at this moment.
Why no option to use old design? Come on, its 21st century out of the office - plenty of computatiional resources out there - make a mirror of website with _usable_ design and look and feel.
Blue design. Now F5 and A10 is the same. Yep.
Search fail. Google is the main source for navigation. Not your website. GOOGLE. Not your website. It is an additional step in reach to process: go to devcentral, login instead for serarh-google and move to page
LOGIN. WHAT IS THAT FOR ON EARTH?!?!? Are guys have KPI for DAU and MAU on devcentral??? Are you a social network? And not just network hw/sw commercial vendor? Are-you-sure?
Did those "smart people" (note the quotation marks) tried look and feel of new design in various browsers? What about pages/questions/articles TITLES? Informative titles ARE GONE. Instead of "kerberos sso for apm" now it's just like "Feed" for a page title. You, "smart people" just can not be SO "smart" - it's impossible fk up with usability.
What about pipls bookmarks?

I think it's just new manager, head of department or something.

A new gyu. Promoted or just freshly hired.

Who need to "show something for what we've paying you money".

FIRST RULE: It works? DO NOT (ever) touch then.

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Would you, Devcentral, please, return back following functionality a lot of f5 customers used a lot:

availability to jump to dc pages from google (and yes; nobody cares about your kpi for dau/mau; remove this "0D51T00006j2WCYSA2" from uris)
informative page titles. as was before.

DC is supportive mechanism for sales. It doesn't generate sales itself. DC head thinks he (or she or whatever it's gender) is important guy in F5? No it's not.

DC. is. supportive. thing. Let it be so. Let DC perform its main function - streamline process of getting tech info and interchange.

Thank you in advance.

NOT THANK YOU for new broken and ugly design and for broken flow.

Lee_Sutcliffe

Nacreous

May 17, 2019

Don’t hold back will you

John_Doe
Altostratus
May 17, 2019
, so far
google search ruined
~~login to view content~~ (now it's available without sign in)
bookmarks ruined
right-click (open in a new tab) ruined
a lot of white real estate space on left and right of article body (should one cw rotate display?)
DC is on of SalesForce - additional sniffing and spying on you
compare 1.31MB page load and 2.71s load time vs 2.89MB and 7+s load time for https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3Tv01A7pWEkJ:https://devcentral.f5.com/questions/apm-kcd-sso-requesting-ticket-cant-get-forwardable-tickets-1765328163-but-works-eventually-61972 and https://devcentral.f5.com/s/feed/0D51T00006i7jHySAI
human readable URLs and page titles are gone
"click for more" plague all over the site

GDPR could be a reason for migration.
But told that it's about SSO for main site and DC. OK. With strong ability to execute by F5 APM migration was for SSO.

p.s. at least it doesn't (sales-)force one to login to view content.
p.p.s. googlecache it the savoiur for now

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This is very sad that the community which is a very elegant healthy place that differ F5 from anyone else is not available when I needed that :(

I know that change is the most truth and change is for all good , but I have complains .

Dears , please make an action regarding moved or retired stuff messages as it's very annoying and a lot of help just evaporates ?!

I hope you guys understand our concerns and have a plan.

Thanks

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Don’t hold back will you

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Worst idea ever - unconditionally move loyal users to new (and ugly) design.

material design in not that fancy for most of the users who do work and not hanging out on devcentral website
ugly and unreadable font for articles headers - somebody in F5 devcentral design team has impaired vision? Go ahead, buy glasses, contact lens or eve do yourself a present - make an eye vision operation. WHAT THAT BOLD FONT IS FOR??? With condensed space between letters. Are there any UI/UX pros in F5 team or none? It that none of at this moment.
Why no option to use old design? Come on, its 21st century out of the office - plenty of computatiional resources out there - make a mirror of website with _usable_ design and look and feel.
Blue design. Now F5 and A10 is the same. Yep.
Search fail. Google is the main source for navigation. Not your website. GOOGLE. Not your website. It is an additional step in reach to process: go to devcentral, login instead for serarh-google and move to page
LOGIN. WHAT IS THAT FOR ON EARTH?!?!? Are guys have KPI for DAU and MAU on devcentral??? Are you a social network? And not just network hw/sw commercial vendor? Are-you-sure?
Did those \"smart people\" (note the quotation marks) tried look and feel of new design in various browsers? What about pages/questions/articles TITLES? Informative titles ARE GONE. Instead of \"kerberos sso for apm\" now it's just like \"Feed\" for a page title. You, \"smart people\" just can not be SO \"smart\" - it's impossible fk up with usability.
What about pipls bookmarks?

I think it's just new manager, head of department or something.

A new gyu. Promoted or just freshly hired.

Who need to \"show something for what we've paying you money\".

FIRST RULE: It works? DO NOT (ever) touch then.

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Would you, Devcentral, please, return back following functionality a lot of f5 customers used a lot:

availability to jump to dc pages from google (and yes; nobody cares about your kpi for dau/mau; remove this \"0D51T00006j2WCYSA2\" from uris)
informative page titles. as was before.

DC is supportive mechanism for sales. It doesn't generate sales itself. DC head thinks he (or she or whatever it's gender) is important guy in F5? No it's not.

DC. is. supportive. thing. Let it be so. Let DC perform its main function - streamline process of getting tech info and interchange.

Thank you in advance.

NOT THANK YOU for new broken and ugly design and for broken flow.

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Worst idea ever - unconditionally move loyal users to new (and ugly) design.

material design in not that fancy for most of the users who do work and not hanging out on devcentral website
ugly and unreadable font for articles headers - somebody in F5 devcentral design team has impaired vision? Go ahead, buy glasses, contact lens or eve do yourself a present - make an eye vision operation. WHAT THAT BOLD FONT IS FOR??? With condensed space between letters. Are there any UI/UX pros in F5 team or none? It that none of at this moment.
Why no option to use old design? Come on, its 21st century out of the office - plenty of computatiional resources out there - make a mirror of website with _usable_ design and look and feel.
Blue design. Now F5 and A10 is the same. Yep.
Search fail. Google is the main source for navigation. Not your website. GOOGLE. Not your website. It is an additional step in reach to process: go to devcentral, login instead for serarh-google and move to page
LOGIN. WHAT IS THAT FOR ON EARTH?!?!? Are guys have KPI for DAU and MAU on devcentral??? Are you a social network? And not just network hw/sw commercial vendor? Are-you-sure?
Did those \"smart people\" (note the quotation marks) tried look and feel of new design in various browsers? What about pages/questions/articles TITLES? Informative titles ARE GONE. Instead of \"kerberos sso for apm\" now it's just like \"Feed\" for a page title. You, \"smart people\" just can not be SO \"smart\" - it's impossible fk up with usability.
What about pipls bookmarks?

I think it's just new manager, head of department or something.

A new gyu. Promoted or just freshly hired.

Who need to \"show something for what we've paying you money\".

FIRST RULE: It works? DO NOT (ever) touch then.

***

Would you, Devcentral, please, return back following functionality a lot of f5 customers used a lot:

availability to jump to dc pages from google (and yes; nobody cares about your kpi for dau/mau; remove this \"0D51T00006j2WCYSA2\" from uris)
informative page titles. as was before.

DC is supportive mechanism for sales. It doesn't generate sales itself. DC head thinks he (or she or whatever it's gender) is important guy in F5? No it's not.

DC. is. supportive. thing. Let it be so. Let DC perform its main function - streamline process of getting tech info and interchange.

Thank you in advance.

NOT THANK YOU for new broken and ugly design and for broken flow.

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, so far

google search ruined
~~login to view content~~ (now it's available without sign in)
bookmarks ruined
right-click (open in a new tab) ruined
a lot of white real estate space on left and right of article body (should one cw rotate display?)
DC is on of SalesForce - additional sniffing and spying on you
compare 1.31MB page load and 2.71s load time vs 2.89MB and 7+s load time for https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3Tv01A7pWEkJ:https://devcentral.f5.com/questions/apm-kcd-sso-requesting-ticket-cant-get-forwardable-tickets-1765328163-but-works-eventually-61972 and https://devcentral.f5.com/s/feed/0D51T00006i7jHySAI
human readable URLs and page titles are gone
\"click for more\" plague all over the site

$\"0691T000006B0FbQAK.jpg\"$

GDPR could be a reason for migration.

But told that it's about SSO for main site and DC. OK. With strong ability to execute by F5 APM migration was for SSO.

p.s. at least it doesn't (sales-)force one to login to view content.

p.p.s. googlecache it the savoiur for now

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